Sylar (
heroslayer) wrote2008-08-25 06:05 pm
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Comment here to find out what Sylar really thinks of your character. The truth, I mean, not just what he'd tell you, and not just what he thinks he thinks.
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Corruptionverse.
What's happening to Mohinder is everything he's ever wanted. He's just as crazy as he is. He's clearly unafraid of acting on the tension that he's felt between them since they first met. He looks at Sylar like he's a god. He's still retained his intelligence, his sharpness. He's ruthless. It's wonderful and he should be happy, but at the same time.
He's been a victim of madness, yes, and in his opinion it's made him stronger, but he's never seen someone go through it. He's never been there to witness insanity from the outside. Everyone he's ever met, has been unchangeably good, no hints of ever breaking or changing their point of view. So, he's so afraid that Mohinder might end up broken beyond repair. That he'll just keep spiraling downwards until there's nothing left of the man that fascinated him so much. That, in the end, their dynamic will be shattered, that they won't be Sylar and Mohinder anymore. That they'll be Sylar and ... who the hell are you again? And he doesn't know how to be, "Dude. Cut the crazy for a bit," or if he even should, or if it would help. It's why he's had a few, idle thoughts about just killing Mohinder - because that would ensure that Mohinder remains as he remembers him, albeit just out of reach, forever.
Even beyond that, though, he knows what addiction to power is like, and while Mohinder is just getting his feet wet at the moment, he knows. He knows it's not something you can quiet, that lust for power. That it's like a snowball. You get a taste for it, and you want more and more until you're gorging yourself. And he's kind of afraid that Mohinder will get to the point where the want for more is greater than the want to prove himself to him, and they'll end up at odds again. Only it'll be honest WE FITE NAO rather than the sort of cat and mouse game they've always enjoyed in the past, and he really doesn't want to kill the guy. As much as he's thought about it.
It's funny, though. He can't say why he doesn't really want to hurt or lose Mohinder, just yet. He recognizes that it's something more real than not wanting to see his toys broken, particularly one so new, but ... well. It's not so much love yet as obsession. But every time Suresh hurts someone, even if there's that spark of fear of losing him to his insanity, it brings him closer to love. Closer to thinking of them as true equals. Closer to not!Spike/Dru.
ASverse.
But it's funny. It doesn't burn or eat at him, drive him further into insanity or make him want to kill him, as it would have if they were having this affair without the world ending. Oh, sure, it scares the hell out of him to think he's in love, but it's solid and calming rather than burning blindly. Their love doesn't have to scream louder than the hunger, because his lust to kill is easier to silence on his own now, so it's more ... something familiar. Like slipping into a warm bath. Or settling in front of a fireplace in the middle of winter. It's a point of comfort.
For as calming as Mohinder is for him, though, there's a little sour part in his heart that won't let Mohinder go now because he's his. If he has to kidnap the guy to keep him? Fine. If he has to murder everyone else? He'd do that, too. If he had to kill Mohinder, just to preserve his memory, to keep what he considers his? He'd feel sorry for doing it, in the same way Chandra is one of the two people he's ever felt guilty for killing, but he'd do it. Anything not to have to lose him, because he's unsure as to what he'd do if he did.
That dumbfounds him a little, I think. Here's a man with a plan, who's spent his entire life alone. Who's had people walk in and out of his life, and he didn't really care, and then here's Suresh. He doesn't understand why he panicks when he thinks of losing him. He should just be able to bounce back, if and when that happens. But even thinking about it to gauge his reaction, so I can be honest here? He's like, "Ohgodohgodohgod." It's like that fic I wrote, as companion to yours. Suresh goes and that's it. He's hinging everything on him, and all because the man can look past the killer without judging. Without insisting he needs to be saved. All because the man can give him a second chance.
And I think that's part of why he won't tell him he loves him. Yes, it's there, but he's so afraid that if he says something, Mohinder will laugh in his face, and be like, "Yeah. You were the guy that killed my father. You think this is anything other than me wanting someone to shag? You fail." Even if Mohinder were to say it first, the words would catch in his throat, because there's always that chance. There's always the fear that if he does, Mohinder will turn around and tell him that he said it just to make him say it back, so he could have a laugh. Or that Mohinder won't believe he's being sincere. Or any number of things, really. And he can't have that. He can't be denied like that again, because he went crazy the first time, and he has no where else to go, if it happens again.
So he tries to let him know in other ways. Showing him parts of himself he wouldn't dare dust off for anyone else. The roughness with him, when they go at it, so that Mohinder knows that he belongs to him. Letting Mohinder have those dominant moments, to show that he trusts him, and letting him be just as rough back, so Mohinder can mark his territory in return. Words have never been his strong point, so he opts for physicality. That's a language he speaks.
In other news. Sylar also thinks Suresh is brilliant. Man has a great mind, and he adores that. Mohinder is his equal, both intellectually as well as otherwise, and that's not an honor he's ever bestowed upon anyone else. Nor will he ever. Everyone else is an insect, compared to him, but Suresh? Mohinder's something more. A puzzle he can't solve and doesn't want to because, for once, the mystery is half the fun.
And since I seem to be leaving quotes at the end of these for some reason? The one you get is, "My heart will break before I cry. I will go mad," from the end of Haunted by Poe. That's wandering out into the snow to die, after you've lost the other half of yourself. Even if it was just an AU fic.
Re: ASverse.
But still, thank you for such in depth responses!
Re: ASverse.
For a man who's so flat emotionally, outwardly, he has pretty strong reactions to people. And there's really no neutral ground with him. He either loves absolutely or he hates absolutely, but there are so many reasons for it. So I just kind of brain dumped, when I did everyone's responses.
You're totally welcome, though. :D! *breaks in her LOL RAMONES OOC icon*
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Now, though, his opinions have changed drastically. Adam did for him, without having to. There was no debt to pay or favor to return. Adam just did it. It was a gift, and since Sylar's not the type to get gifted with things at random, let alone having someone offer to let him hack him up? Yeah. And it's strange, because he's of the mind that the world owes him, that he should be able to just take things, gift or not, so this really shouldn't be that big a deal, but it is.
So, at the moment, he's a little obsessed. Not in the way he's obsessed with Mohinder, of course, but in the way that he wants to be the guy's BFF. He wants to repay him, for what he did, and probably for the course of more than one major favor. The guy gave him the one thing he's coveted more than anything for a long time, dispelled his fear of death forever, so Adam's just earned himself an immortal pet serial killer.
Think, like, the relationship between a sire and a fledgling vampire, for lack of a less cliche descriptior.
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2. *pets Sylar* Being Adam's friend can be a tricky thing--he might've been smart to not be sure a week ago. 'Cause now Adam's all, "HEE" and it generally spells badness for the world when Adam gets all "HEE." He's apparently always wanted an immortal pet serial killer like whoa, so they both got what they wanted. ;-D
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Sylar loves him, I think that much is very clear by the fact that he managed to say it, if only once, and that sort of thing isn't usually in his nature. For the last, what, two years he's closed himself down. He can't afford to get close to people, because they will never, ever understand who he is and be able to look past it. He can't afford to because having people he cares about only gets him hurt, in the end. Chandra did it to him. Hell, even Mohinder did it to him at one point, because he was being almost genuine, beyond the whole, "WHAT? SYLAR? WHERE? OMG!" And then there was drugged tea and curare. And it's ... it's part of what being Sylar is, for him. It's a defense mechanism. He locks himself down and gives himself to the madness so he doesn't have to be vulnerable, like he was when he was Gabriel. So he can be someone who's important, where all Gabriel was, was weak.
And Mohinder has managed to push past that. To see him. If he believed in reincarnation, he'd probably say it was like two old souls that belonged together finally meeting up again. Squinting at each other, across the room, while everything else falls away, because both knows the other, but both can't understand why. Mohinder makes him weak and is his strength at the same time. And it burns worse than any torture he's ever known, and it gnaws at him more than the hunger ever could, and he wants to scream. To kill him. To end it, just so he can go back to being who he sees himself as again, but he wouldn't dare. He doesn't understand it, but he'd rather live with it then try and break it down and analyze it, for fear he might cheapen it. Which is a first for him in a very long time, even before being Sylar.
He also considers him a sort of equal. Even before the whole love thing entered the equation, Sylar was - is - facinated by his mind. He's the only person who's ever managed to stop him, without help. The only person who's managed to beat him through wits, rather than sheer force of numbers or strength of abilities. And that captivates the hell out of him. How does he do it? Why are they so evenly matched? It sort of aggitates him that he can't pin that one down, but like the love thing, he'd rather it be there as a constant, rather than lose the thrill of it by unraveling the mystery. It's ... Mohinder's the only person he would give that distinction to, really. Not even Peter, with all his abilities, gets to have that. Mohinder is the Sherlock to his Moriarty. And that's saying something.
Now, you ask, why are they less talking, more making out when they meet up? Because their time together is limited. Because in the moments they do steal together, he wants Suresh to know that he belongs to him, and that he cares about him, even if he can't voice it. And he thinks that the best way to do that is through physicality, because that's what he understands. That can't be argued. Actions speak louder than words and all. And if he's a little violent about it? All the better for it, so that Mohinder has cuts and bruises, so that he has something to remember him by. So that he can't forget him or cast him aside, like his father did. Forget him not.
And, in conclusion of this rant, I leave you with a quote from an old show that aired on Sci-Fi in the early 90s. Forever Knight. "If you love something, let it go. If I doesn't return? Hunt it down and kill it."
I hope this made half as much sense as it did in my head. :P
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Mohinder is still so very off balance and confused by it all. He wanted Zane, and didn't know why--and I think the old souls, connected, soulmates, belonging together--he'd probably buy pretty easily. The idea that despite everything they've done to each other, they're still drawn together, needing, as if the violence and the emotional ripping and torture even, were ways of expressing what they didn't have words to explain.
Now that Sylar's SAID he loves him, though, Mohinder's torn between awe and relief and that wonderful feeling of knowing the person you love loves you back, and "Oh, fuck, wth have I done?" Because Sylar killed his father, yes, but more than that, I think it's because of Molly. What's been done to him, he can forgive, choose to move beyond, but he feels like he's betraying the child he's taken as his own, and that rips at him with the divided loyalty. When it was to keep her safe? Being Sylar's friend, fucking him, letting him have what he wanted to keep her safe--he could rationalize. But he knows it is so so much more than that and that was just an excuse to make him feel okay about acting on his own feelings.
But Sylar's upped the stakes, putting the words out there, and the cold side of Mohinder, the one that drugged him, and would have executed him sitting tied and helpless, is all triumphant. And the side that loves him desperately is all overjoyed. And the side that loves Molly more than his own life is horrified at the overjoyed side. So he's this conflicted bundle of feelings and nerves, because he does love him, even though he tells himself he shouldn't. And he does want to be with him. And he misses him with a near physical hurt when he's not there. And he wants to tell people with that flush of joy that comes with newly discovered love, proclaiming it to everyone who will listen. And then he looks at Molly, and thinks what she's been through, and thinks he must be a horrible person for loving someone who could have killed her, would have, but for Matt.
But Sylar challenges him, emotionally and mentally, and talking to him--when they manage to stop kissing long enough to talk--is always a delight. He hopes the road trip was real, the talking, the sharing things, because he clings to that rather a lot. He genuinely enjoys just being with him, and, lately at least, feels safe--the only time he feels safe, I might add--when they're together, even when Sylar's being moody and violent and unpredictable. He still feels safe, and it's been so so long since he felt that--before Chandra even came to New York, I think, but most definitely since he found out he was killed. So--oddness there, too. It was his father's murder that hurled him into this very unsafe world, and his father's murderer who is the one to quiet his fears.
And, just to note--he cherishes each cut and bruise (even if the cherishing confuses the hell out of him). To be accepted, to be wanted, to be claimed--all the things he's never truly felt. Dude, Chandra fucked them both over so badly. *glares at him*
*loves the quote, giggles at it, and hopes that was at all coherent in return?*
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He's not stupid. He knows that all the posts she's been making on SWS - whether you want to consider that message boards or whatever - are directed at Mohinder. Or, well, he strongly assumes, anyway, since they started right after she and Suresh were meant to meet. And yeah, ok, he recognizes that she's holding herself back because she doesn't want to hurt him, but really? Really? He spared her life when he could have just killed her and gotten it over with, that first time he was at her apartment, and then she goes and does that. Betrayal for his genorosity? How dare she make eyes at his property?
He hasn't killed her and just gotten it over with for two reasons. One, she hasn't mentioned meeting the Batman yet, and so he doesn't want to touch her. That has to come to pass, because he saw it happening, and he doesn't want to be in that pile of thugs the Batman's standing on, if the guy does have kickass powers. And two, he's still not sure what the limits of her abilities are. He doesn't want to attack her, have his cover blown and have her escape, if it turns out his armada of abilities can't take care of her shadow.
So he can wait. Pretend to be her friend. Test the waters. He's got enough lies to sustain him for as long as he needs to, and he enjoys the mustache twirling so very, very much. One day, he'll get around to tying her to those damned railroad tracks, but not today.
Also. The opinions of the muse are not those of the mun. I <3 you. And I think the fact that Sylar's all, "My Mohinder! No touchy!" is hysterical, since the muse has
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She genuinely believes that she'll be able to hold back and do the right thing. She's downright defensive about it--she got into a shouting match in a post the other day when someone told her "oh eff it, at the end of the day you need to do what makes you happy". I suspect the defensiveness is born of a deep-seated, very five-year-old sense of "But don't wanna." However, it's the right thing to do, and of course it's putting someone else ahead of her own wants/needs, which is nearly pathological with her sometimes.
I have not yet sat down and figured out what could and could not stop her shadow, apart from what was discussed in the thread itself--manifestation takes a lot out of her, if it's sustained, and if there's no light, there's no shadow. It'll also be a while before she meets the Batman, since I have a ways to go with her storyline, to get her to a point where she's doing stuff that's going to make him go find her and go "dude, knock it off, okay?"
She is, of course, completely oblivious to even the existence of a moustache, let alone any associated twirling. It's a joy to have her trusting nature be taken advantage of, for once, to have it played and exploited intelligently and deliberately rather than seen as something to dote on or like her for. She's completely buying everything he's laid out, and genuinely believes they're good friends, and he's someone she can rely on and look up to.
I heart you, too. And well, he wouldn't really be Sylar if there wasn't some greedy bastardry going on, right? :)
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So needless to say, he's pretty conflicted.
Strangely enough, though, he'd probably keep talking to Bennet. Not sure what he thinks about him or not, the guy has some unique insight. He almost knows him, so he can give him hard truths when he needs to hear them. And not many people can do that, let alone hold their ground with him long enough to want to. Yeah, it irritates him that he can't use his usual scare tactics on Bennet, but it's akin to looking an animal in the eyes. You let them know that you're not afraid, and eventually, they'll give up on trying to maul you.
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Sylar is jealous of Peter. Insanely jealous. Sylar has to work for his powers - get his hands dirty - and while he relishes murdering, because not only is it such a high, it also ensures that he's the only one with that particular ability, Peter has it easy. Anything power he can imagine, he can have at his fingertips, just by finding and connecting with someone who already has that ability. He doesn't have to work. He doesn't have to plan or worry about being caught or any of that. He just has it handed to him on a plate. And jealousy, for Sylar, leads to hate. And hate leads to wanting him dead. It's kind of like the dark side of the force.
It's funny, though. Sylar would be happy to kill Peter, even if it somehow meant he couldn't take his ability. Oh, sure, it'd be nice to have - make his life so much easier - but even if he just had to kill him, flat out? That's fine. He won't have all that wonderful power, but neither will anyone else. Anyone who wants to be like him will have to work just as he has, and he severely doubts anyone else will. No one's as committed as he is. They can't be. They don't understand things like he does.
Beyond the jealousy and the hate, though, Peter also scares the hell out of him. And not just because the guys is the only enhanced human with the potential to take him down, solo. More because Peter is what he might have been. A shadow. A reminder that if things had gone differently, if he'd had more support or if he hadn't been betrayed, he might be the hero for once. That Gabriel Gray might have been someone who people noticed, rather than having to reforge himself in murder for people to notice.
And yeah. There you go.
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Two, the guy freaking stabbed him. There he was, in Kirby Plaza, all power high. Peter was losing it and that was lulz worthy. And yeah, ok, he got parking meter'd by Niki, but he could cope with that. It hurt, but it wasn't potentially fatal. He was winning, and here comes Nakamura, out of the blue, with a sword to the chest. The guy almost killed him. And despite the fact that he was begging for it, when Hiro started trailing him, he really, really doesn't want to die. The thought scares him, and Hiro almost made his worst fear come to pass. It's why he stopped arguing with your Hiro, that night on SWS, when he threatened to teleport his heart out of his body. Because, "OHCHRIST! THE JAPANESE KID IS JUST NUTS ENOUGH TO DO IT! D: RUNAWAY!"
It's funny, though. He wants to kill Hiro - hates him - for all he's done to him, and for putting that fear into him, but he respects him somehow. If he were going to come for him, he'd do it with honor. No sneaking around. No great schemes. Just true evil against true good in an epic fight, face to face. He knows that gives him a greater chance of losing, because it means Hiro will see him coming, but it's sort of ... repayment for the favor of not killing him when he asked for it, because clearly, he was out of his mind, at the time. Hiro let him live, so he gets a fair fight. But he'll still kill him.
And I hope any of that made sense. Seven hours of sleep in the last forty-eight FTL.
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Unfortunately, much as Hiro would prefer the same kind of fight as Sylar - face-to-face - he's pretty sure of the fact that Sylar has been working on his abilities as much as he has. His ability to move in and out of time and in various directions is going to be his main advantage.
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In AS verse?
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While the muse is currently eyeing my head, however, it's true. Sort of. The man has a very strange idea of what friend means.
He respects Adam, first and foremost. The man has never tried stripping him of his right to make his own decisions, like he feels Peter has. There's always a choice with Adam, a feeling of, "If it makes you happy, go for it," and he likes that. Not that he wouldn't be doing his own thing anyway, even if Adam told him he couldn't, but still. It's nice to be treated like a responsible adult, rather than a small child who needs constant supervision. Adam's also been relatively straightforward with him. Anything he has in the works or any question Sylar has asked of him, he's answered without lying or without trying to find what he thinks is the right answer. He hasn't tried to save him. He hasn't pressed a subject Sylar clearly hasn't wanted to elaborate on.
And all that alone is enough to pretty much ensure that, even beyond his promise to Peter, he won't try and kill the man. Oh, sure, he did it that one time as a scare tactic, but he wanted to be sure that Adam trusted him as much as he trusts back. Hell of a way to do it, but general human reaction is fight or flight, when their life is threatened, and he wanted to see which if either he would get from Adam. Like I said to Mara, earlier, it's like looking a wild animal in the eyes. If you can do it and not show fear, they'll leave you alone.
It's funny, though, for as much as he trusts Adam, there are certain things won't let him have, just yet. Mostly the things that can be used against him. Like the extent of his relationship with Mohinder, even if Adam suspects. Or the details of who he was, before Brian Davis and Sylar. Hell, he won't even mention Chandra by name, to him - yeah, he's given him the fact that he's been betrayed by someone, but he won't name who. It's half out of the fact that he really hasn't picked a side yet, and while he's leaning towards Adam's rather than Team Petrelli, he doesn't want to give Adam anything to use against him, if he changes his mind. And it's half out of the fact that the idea of people knowing him scares the hell out of him.
Mohinder already knows him. Peter has seen more than he wants him to. Bennet called him on being in love with Suresh. So he desperately needs to have someone that will let him hold onto a few of his secrets without pressing. He might tell Adam everything and anything, eventually, but right now, the guy is the only person who talks to him who isn't desperate to know what goes on inside his head. And he values his privacy. A lot. It's why, at the moment, Mohinder's the only person who knows he lives in Queens, not at Gray and Sons in Manhattan. He needs to have somewhere to retreat where he can just be and not have to worry about the end of the world, or choosing a side, or ...
For as much as Sylar won't give Adam, though, there's a lot he'd be privy to that he wouldn't tell anyone else. The biggest of which being his schemes, whatever they might be - which is amazing, because I don't think he'd tell anyone else and not just because he'd probably get slapped on the wrist. More because his plans are his own. He's the kind of guy that would rather be tortured than give up what he was planning because the idea is his, damn it, and no you can't have it! Well, that and the fact that, if you want something done right, do it yourself. But he trusts Adam not to steal his plans or screw them up. The guy is competent and sharp, and he can't say that about many people. In fact, the only other person he might say that about is Mohinder, so that's saying a lot.
And, finally, Sylar's sort of fascinated by Adam, and not just for his brains. The guy is old. There's so many things he could learn from him. So many stories Adam could tell him. And he's sort of like a small child, on that front, sitting down in front of their grandfather and demanding to hear stories about the good old days.
So .... yeah.
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Whether Adam is secretly manipulating Sylar into liking him so he has some form of defense if the time comes when he’s under attack, or if he just plain likes Sylar for being more accepting than most on the case of murder, even I don’t know that. It’s probably both. Like friends with superpower-involved benefits.
He respects Sylars need for privacy, just as he likes his own. Doesn’t force him in any particular direction, because he’s realized by now that Sylar is not the type to be pushed without extreme retaliation. He’ll attempt to influence certain ways of thought though, no doubt, if it’ll benefit him, or both of them, or the general population in the end.
Adam hasn’t lied to him yet, because Sylar would know, and while that creeps him out, an angry-at-being-lied-to Sylar is sometimes worse than the truth. So there’s a certain amount of
fearwariness there.And even though he won’t outright lie to Sylar, he’s not going to tell him everything. Like how he’s already read his file from the Company, knows about Brian Davis and Chandra, and his real name, all that fun stuff. Burned the file of course, but if Sylar hasn’t yet told him about any of those things, it’s no doubt a touchy subject, and he won’t intrude on it. After all, he already knows, so letting Sylar think Adam trusts him enough to not know anything about him is great for both of them. So long as he doesn’t find out.
If Sylar did pick team Petrelli as opposed to him… I don’t think he’d use either of those things against him, and rather point out the bad things about the Petrelli’s. You can’t win someone over if they’re psychotic and angry at you.
And he certainly won’t try to save Sylar, because he hates it when that’s done to him. There’s a mutual level of understanding on the I like who I am right now, thank you level.
Adam is lonely. Very much so, as much as he wouldn’t admit it. He’s used to being alone, but that doesn’t mean he finds it enjoyable. So Sylar’s company, since it was the first since the virus was released? Extremely welcome.
And yes, he still finds it a shame Mohinder would probably be appalled at the idea of a threesome.In a selfish way, he’d let Sylar tinker around in his head if it meant Sylar would be immortal with him. Then they really WOULD be best friends forever, key word being forever.
But being immortal isn’t all it’s cracked up to be, as he already knows. And if Sylar loves someone, which Adam doesn’t know if it’s real love or just protective lust just yet, then really, immortality is one of the worst things you can have. Because you’ll watch them grow old and die, and you can’t join them. You can delay it for them, but even then, it’s not a permanent solution. So he’s not letting him copy his ability for HIS benefit. And because he’s sort of anxious about having him poke around his brain.
If Sylar was to ever ask Adam for help or something, himself or Mohinder mortally wounded or whatever, premature their time, then he’d certainly help. Really, at this stage in the game, he’d probably help anyone, because their survival is necessary to Adam’s plans.
Adam will occasionally act strangely in front of Sylar, because Sylar’s really the only one he can be like that in front of. With Monica and Angela it’s all ‘letz get down to biznezz.’ But Sylar’s the only one who will meet with him for the sheer sake of company. And also because well, Adam’s gone a little nuts because of what happened to Hiro, he’s a little less caring about some things like keeping up appearances of sanity, when said company’s sanity is also questionable.
And maybe one day, Adam will probably tell Sylar his stories, because the only one who’s listened to them before would probably be Elle during those days at the Company. Who probably would shock him if she didn’t like how they ended.
…Yeeeep. XD Totally wrote this out of order and pasted it all together, so if anything doesn’t make sense… My bad.